In this episode, Jason and Claire explore the themes of cultural fragmentation, hybridization, and the opportunities that arise from cultural shifts. McLaren discusses how living in a fragmenting world can be seen not only as destructive but also as a moment of possibility, where mutation and hybridity create something new. This conversation highlights the importance of befriending multiplicity, and the freedom that can emerge when diverse expressions of Christianity and culture evolve and intersect.

In today’s conversation, Jenell and Claire reflect on one of our most memorable episodes with none other than Nadia Bolz-Weber, a renowned pastor and public theologian known for her raw honesty, wit, and profound insights into Christian spirituality.

The Collective Table and Oceanside Sanctuary are joining together! Look for our new episode, “Passing the Baton” out today wherever you listen to podcasts.